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#1 User is offline   Andrew Shpagin Icon

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Posted 18 April 2008 - 02:12 PM

It sounds like a joke, but it is serious :)

In general I am making 3D-Coat whole time :) But recently I have remembered that there are some hidden features :) A year ago I have written trees generator. It can be activated by replacing one string in config.txt in current 3D-Coat installation (read there). But for convenience I have made separate installation in half of hour. It is there.

www.3d-coat.com/files/3d-Coat-2-trees.exe

It is free to everyone who has purchaced 3D-Coat. At least for some time (maybe it will cost something when I will make rich export functions and make it white&furry).
It is not very user-friendly, but anyway, easy enough. It is not 100% made, sometimes I will update it if you will like it.
Enjoy!

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*edit: I have updeted the link, now it has correct export functions.
- Export for games - exports leafs as a random planes. To use in game you should convert it to your own format and rendar billboards to look at camera
- export for render - contains 6x more random billboards

mtl file and textures are also exported.

In general it is serious app, there is many competetive options:

1) deleting invisible faces inside parent root
2) branches can grow not only directly under some angle like in SpeedTre but starts from tangent direction and follows with random angle in some direction
3) roots like a kind of branches
4) adaptive simplification of branches in dependence on curvature (not a simple equidistant sampling like it is usually done)
5) possibility to use multiple leafs types on the one tree (most of generators use single leaf clone).
5) generating LOD-s
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Posted 18 April 2008 - 02:30 PM

Andrew;
The tree generator is very cool. When I have time to study it a bit more. Off hand I did not see a way to rotate and move it. I did purchase a tree generator a while back and it was a bit expensive, wish I had known about your generator. I know 3D Coat is your and our primary program, but completing this may be another source of income.
Thank You, you are the man
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Posted 18 April 2008 - 02:40 PM

Wow, very very cool indeed!
You make software development look so easy...
Would be a worthy product to develop by itself(although 3dCoat has a larger audience of course)

(One question though, how does the saving work exactly?
There is an auto-save button, but where does it save?)
Nevermind, found it, in the "models" folder in het programfolder.

Doesn't save it with textures though. And what are C2M files?

One extra feature would be really neat, especially for LW users, to be able to export it with morphs for the leaves, don't know if it's possible though.
The wind effect in the program works really well for realism.

Edit 1: okay, found it
Edit 2: added C2M question.
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Posted 18 April 2008 - 02:46 PM

I have just add a comment about export, it exports obj-s at Models\trees\generate\obj\
C2M is internal format of Cossacks engine.
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Posted 18 April 2008 - 02:49 PM

Thanks for quick reply, but I already found it. (and edited my post)

How do you export textures with it though, doesn't seem to import the textures in Lightwave.
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Posted 18 April 2008 - 03:10 PM

Tou can take textures in textures folder. Now it does not exports mtl-file.
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Posted 18 April 2008 - 08:29 PM

Andrew,

That is really cool! Really enjoy the animation.

Well done! (and thanks),

rj
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Posted 18 April 2008 - 10:15 PM

wow this is a great program, hope you make the updates, leaf editing and exports nicely! thanks
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Posted 19 April 2008 - 12:09 AM

That's sweet!

I haven't thought this out, but does anyone else think an integration with 3d-Trees and 3D-Coat would be a good idea? Similar to the 3DC and Photoshop (or external editor) link. Maybe the initial 3DC start-up screen could have a"tree" icon in addition to the one's already present.

I can see generating a tree and throwing it back to 3DC for some sculpting/painting etc. Of course this can already be done via export/import, but it seems to me it would be pretty cool doing the whole thing without leaving 3DC.

Paint on leaves in 3DC? :rolleyes: Maybe in the future leaves and grasses can be generated by the new hair/fiber system?

..... and then a rock or stone generator :)
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Posted 19 April 2008 - 01:26 AM

Hecky Yes!
This is awesome, please update this: you have another winner if you stay with it as an additonal incentive to buy.
Wow.
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Posted 19 April 2008 - 03:29 AM

Wow. My simple request is getting so much love. Thanks Andrew! I answered your question in the other thread. I hope its clear about the export option.

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Posted 19 April 2008 - 08:50 AM

I have updated the link. Please re-download it. I have add correct export options and corrected artifacts on roots.
- Export for games - exports leafs as a random planes. To use in game you should convert it to your own format and rendar billboards to look at camera
- export for render - contains 6x more random billboards

mtl file and textures are also exported. It is interesting how it looks rendered.
BTW, for games there are lod-s options

In general it is serious app, there is many competetive options:

1) deleting faces inside parent root
2) branches can grow not only directly under some angle like in SpeedTre but starts from tangent direction and follows with random angle in some direction
3) roots like a kind of branches
4) adaptive simplification of branches in dependence on curvature (not a simple equidistant sampling like it is usually done)
5) generating LOD-s

(I have add this list to first post)
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Posted 19 April 2008 - 06:22 PM

It looks like you might have a problem with the name Trees Generator. There's another program I just came across called "3D Tree Generator". I just came across the (very tiny) web site by accident.
http://www.tree-generator.com/
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Posted 19 April 2008 - 08:32 PM

Andrew, lets call it 3DT :rolleyes:
3DC = 3D-Coat, 3DT = 3D-Tree
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Posted 20 April 2008 - 06:04 PM

This is just awesome, cool tool. I think it should be called 3D Tree.

A feature request for LW users, if you could make it possible to export an object with a point in the center of every leaf billboard that we could use as a referance for cloning the billboard in LW. That's the only way for us to make every billboard to face the camera.

Thanks for another great tool.
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Posted 20 April 2008 - 07:46 PM

Andrew,
How to close the billboard color panel?
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Posted 20 April 2008 - 08:25 PM

View Postyukon_28, on Apr 19 2008, 09:32 PM, said:

Andrew, lets call it 3DT :rolleyes:
3DC = 3D-Coat, 3DT = 3D-Tree


Why not 3D-Bark or 3D-Leaf ?
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Posted 20 April 2008 - 11:12 PM

View PostUnCommonGrafx, on Apr 20 2008, 07:46 PM, said:

Andrew,
How to close the billboard color panel?

I have the same question,I think it might be a bug.
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Posted 21 April 2008 - 04:40 AM

View PostUnCommonGrafx, on Apr 20 2008, 10:46 PM, said:

Andrew,
How to close the billboard color panel?

What is "billboard color panel"?
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Posted 21 April 2008 - 05:05 AM

View PostAndrew Shpagin, on Apr 21 2008, 04:40 AM, said:

What is "billboard color panel"?

It's the billboard color panel! :rolleyes:

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