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Posted 28 July 2010 - 04:21 PM

I am a complete novice with 3d Coat but I was looking at a Kurv Modeling Tutorial and watched the user
create a Voxel Sphere
set up Symetry across the X-Axis
then using the "Paint with Drawn Contour..." tool in Increase Mode cut out the sides of the sphere to get a shape like the torso of a human.

I tried this and certainly can get 3D Coat to cut out from the sphere but it does not seem to penetrat all of the way through and when I can get it to go through the sphere from the front to the rear, the remaining area is not a smooth surface but has a rim and looks like there is another (smaller) sphere inside the main one!!

I have read the manual and checked out some other Tutorials here at the Forum but cannot get the answer I need!!

Any ideas???

By the way - 3D-Coat is something else as a piece of software.

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Posted 30 July 2010 - 01:20 PM

View PostMIDIManNI, on 28 July 2010 - 05:21 PM, said:

I am a complete novice with 3d Coat but I was looking at a Kurv Modeling Tutorial and watched the user
create a Voxel Sphere
set up Symetry across the X-Axis
then using the "Paint with Drawn Contour..." tool in Increase Mode cut out the sides of the sphere to get a shape like the torso of a human.

I tried this and certainly can get 3D Coat to cut out from the sphere but it does not seem to penetrat all of the way through and when I can get it to go through the sphere from the front to the rear, the remaining area is not a smooth surface but has a rim and looks like there is another (smaller) sphere inside the main one!!

I have read the manual and checked out some other Tutorials here at the Forum but cannot get the answer I need!!

Any ideas???

By the way - 3D-Coat is something else as a piece of software.

Later...

MIDIManNI (aka Ivan Flack)

Select either Carve,Sphere or 2DPaint brush.
Its not the first time this question gets asked,its written nowhere in manual
and as you pointed out its even shown the old way in a lot of video tutorials..
I wish Andrew could make a Cutn'Add brush to help new users(an "empty" non-extrude brush that would only work with E-panel selection tools).
The truth is Cut and Add with E-panel is now an hidden function when before it was really easy to figure how to do it. :(
Even Juan Carlos asked how to do it not so long ago and he knows 3DCoat very well since the early days.
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Posted 31 July 2010 - 09:13 AM

View Postartman, on 30 July 2010 - 02:20 PM, said:

Select either Carve,Sphere or 2DPaint brush.


Artman - Thanks very much for the information regarding this. It will get me back into "learning mode" once more...

Again my thanks.




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Posted 02 August 2010 - 07:29 AM

Yeah it is one of those things that changed along the way. Just glad it is still in there in some form, I love using the tools to cut and shape things like clay. Very intuitive.
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Posted 02 August 2010 - 05:19 PM

Yeah....I usually use the "Clay" brush to do all cutting operations....by the way, give the "splines" drawing mode a little time too. I find that is one I use 75% of the time when cutting and trimming. You can click on the little tiny floating icon and select "Edit Points" to complete the loop and start editing. You can also select B-Splines, which are also fun to work with. There is a check box (Edit point table) to sharpen individual points, or you can just place additional points alongside the point you want sharpened. Once you get the hang of it, you'll be using it for all kinds of things.

Also, taking it a bit further...if you hate having to clean up your geometry after doing boolean operations in major 3D applications, you could model them in 3DC, Auto-retopo or manual retopo, and when you go into...let's say 3ds max, for example...you can select the edges of the imported model and convert those edges to splines or NURBS curves for even more accurate tweaking, if needed.
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Posted 03 August 2010 - 10:33 AM

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All great advice and help which is certainly appreciated.


I am a relative novice in this area and certainly with 3D Coat but am amazed at just how great a product it really is!

I even showed it to my youngest daughter (13 years) and she thinks it is great as well (and will probably be able to grasp it better than me...!!!)

Again thanks...














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Posted 04 August 2010 - 02:58 AM

View PostMIDIManNI, on 03 August 2010 - 11:33 AM, said:

 geothefaust and AbnRanger -




All great advice and help which is certainly appreciated.


I am a relative novice in this area and certainly with 3D Coat but am amazed at just how great a product it really is!

I even showed it to my youngest daughter (13 years) and she thinks it is great as well (and will probably be able to grasp it better than me...!!!)

Again thanks...
Glad to help anytime...sounds like you may have gotten her hooked on 3D. :D I came from a Graphic Design background and as soon as I took my first class in 3D (using 3ds Max), I was hooked. If she has any fine art skills, this is definitely the venue to utilize them.
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Posted 07 August 2010 - 12:44 AM

I'm still upset that you can't cut through with any tool any more. It used to be like that and for some reason it changed a while back. Now I have to try to remember which ones do it and which don't. I usually end up using Carve to do it because it sounds like something that cuts all the way through to me so it's easy to remember.
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Posted 07 August 2010 - 03:05 PM

View Postphilnolan3d, on 06 August 2010 - 05:44 PM, said:

I'm still upset that you can't cut through with any tool any more. It used to be like that and for some reason it changed a while back. Now I have to try to remember which ones do it and which don't. I usually end up using Carve to do it because it sounds like something that cuts all the way through to me so it's easy to remember.


Carve is what I have used for the same reason. :)
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